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	<title>Comments on: RIAA vs. The People: We&#8217;re All Losers</title>
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		<title>By: advertising balloons</title>
		<link>http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/riaa-vs-the-people-were-all-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-503445</link>
		<dc:creator>advertising balloons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great minds run in the same channel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great minds run in the same channel!</p>
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		<title>By: Hidden Track &#187; Akron/Family Knows How To Sell CDs</title>
		<link>http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/riaa-vs-the-people-were-all-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-245132</link>
		<dc:creator>Hidden Track &#187; Akron/Family Knows How To Sell CDs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Knows How To Sell CDs   The Electronic Frontier Foundation last week issued a report decrying the RIAA&#8217;s strategy of suing illegal downloaders, opting to support a &#8220;voluntary collective licensing regime.&#8221; But even that report [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Knows How To Sell CDs   The Electronic Frontier Foundation last week issued a report decrying the RIAA&#8217;s strategy of suing illegal downloaders, opting to support a &#8220;voluntary collective licensing regime.&#8221; But even that report [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ace Cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/riaa-vs-the-people-were-all-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-241139</link>
		<dc:creator>Ace Cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, dude? Satire. I thought the phrase &quot;a modest proposal&quot; would be a nice tip-off:  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modest_Proposal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, dude? Satire. I thought the phrase &#8220;a modest proposal&#8221; would be a nice tip-off:  </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modest_Proposal" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modest_Proposal</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gleam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gleam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad to me how so many so-called music fans somehow try to legitimize stealing music. It&#039;s wrong. There&#039;s no explaining it away. The modest proposal up above makes clear how little you know about what it takes to have a sustaining career in the music business. I&#039;m not defending the RIAA either. But the bottom line is if music fans continue to justify stealing music, all they&#039;re doing is driving a stake through the prospect of self sustaining musicians and ultimately creative culture in this country. For bands who are perceived as successful like Dr. Dog, My Morning Jacket, Marco Benevento, M. Ward, Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, etc., selling music is a huge factor in their survival. There&#039;s something to be said for recording a record in a real studio, having the support of a real record label, being able to tour in conditions somewhat above squalor, and the squeeze that pirated music puts on all of these endevours is crushing to artists. Comparing a newspaper or magazine to a piece of art like an album is inconceivable. Sorry, didn&#039;t mean for this to be a stupid ass lecture, but enough is enough already. Throw down the $10 bucks for the album or 99 cents for the track and know that you&#039;re doing the right thing. There&#039;s a lot at stake here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad to me how so many so-called music fans somehow try to legitimize stealing music. It&#8217;s wrong. There&#8217;s no explaining it away. The modest proposal up above makes clear how little you know about what it takes to have a sustaining career in the music business. I&#8217;m not defending the RIAA either. But the bottom line is if music fans continue to justify stealing music, all they&#8217;re doing is driving a stake through the prospect of self sustaining musicians and ultimately creative culture in this country. For bands who are perceived as successful like Dr. Dog, My Morning Jacket, Marco Benevento, M. Ward, Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, etc., selling music is a huge factor in their survival. There&#8217;s something to be said for recording a record in a real studio, having the support of a real record label, being able to tour in conditions somewhat above squalor, and the squeeze that pirated music puts on all of these endevours is crushing to artists. Comparing a newspaper or magazine to a piece of art like an album is inconceivable. Sorry, didn&#8217;t mean for this to be a stupid ass lecture, but enough is enough already. Throw down the $10 bucks for the album or 99 cents for the track and know that you&#8217;re doing the right thing. There&#8217;s a lot at stake here.</p>
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		<title>By: Hidden Track &#187; The Week That Was: Another Reunion</title>
		<link>http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/riaa-vs-the-people-were-all-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-240688</link>
		<dc:creator>Hidden Track &#187; The Week That Was: Another Reunion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RIAA vs. The People: We&#8217;re all huge fucking losers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] RIAA vs. The People: We&#8217;re all huge fucking losers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ace Cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/riaa-vs-the-people-were-all-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-234786</link>
		<dc:creator>Ace Cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree more, Andrew...Someone like Beck probably sold a lot more albums last time around strictly as a result of the unique packaging. 

The DRM point is dead-on as well. I don&#039;t know of any (or many) other products that you can&#039;t share with your friends once you&#039;ve bought it. Couldn&#039;t you imagine if newspapers and magazines just exploded if your friend tried to read &#039;em? Actually, that could be a funny prank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more, Andrew&#8230;Someone like Beck probably sold a lot more albums last time around strictly as a result of the unique packaging. </p>
<p>The DRM point is dead-on as well. I don&#8217;t know of any (or many) other products that you can&#8217;t share with your friends once you&#8217;ve bought it. Couldn&#8217;t you imagine if newspapers and magazines just exploded if your friend tried to read &#8216;em? Actually, that could be a funny prank.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the EFF concludes that you really don’t make friends with salad: “Suing music fans is no answer to the P2P dilemma.”&quot;

I love that this needs to be said. &quot;Your fans won&#039;t buy your stuff if you keep sueing them&quot;

Personally I think getting rid of DRM is a big step in the right direction. The lack of a single standard for DRM on music is a big problem for a lot of people. I pirate a lot of music that I also buy on iTunes because I want to make discs or share a song with a friend. They probably consider the sharing a part of the problem, but if they like the song they are going to be more willing to buy more from that artist in the future. It works in their interests in the long run to, in the words of Cory Doctrow who is a bit obnoxious on this issue, foster a culture around the music. Let people make compilation discs to share and those same fans who are passionate enough to push the product on their friends will work as the greatest advertisers you can imagine. 

My overall solution is packaging. Create unique hardcopy collector&#039;s editions of music. I bought the Icky Thump flashdrives that were shaped like Meg and Jack White. They cost a lot more than the album, but I thought they were worth it because they were interesting. I love getting cool stuff from my favorite artists. Phish always did a great job with their packaging and I always appreciated (and bought for a higher price) the items. It, again, fosters the creation of a culture around the artists and benefits everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the EFF concludes that you really don’t make friends with salad: “Suing music fans is no answer to the P2P dilemma.”&#8221;</p>
<p>I love that this needs to be said. &#8220;Your fans won&#8217;t buy your stuff if you keep sueing them&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally I think getting rid of DRM is a big step in the right direction. The lack of a single standard for DRM on music is a big problem for a lot of people. I pirate a lot of music that I also buy on iTunes because I want to make discs or share a song with a friend. They probably consider the sharing a part of the problem, but if they like the song they are going to be more willing to buy more from that artist in the future. It works in their interests in the long run to, in the words of Cory Doctrow who is a bit obnoxious on this issue, foster a culture around the music. Let people make compilation discs to share and those same fans who are passionate enough to push the product on their friends will work as the greatest advertisers you can imagine. </p>
<p>My overall solution is packaging. Create unique hardcopy collector&#8217;s editions of music. I bought the Icky Thump flashdrives that were shaped like Meg and Jack White. They cost a lot more than the album, but I thought they were worth it because they were interesting. I love getting cool stuff from my favorite artists. Phish always did a great job with their packaging and I always appreciated (and bought for a higher price) the items. It, again, fosters the creation of a culture around the artists and benefits everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From this month&#039;s Atlantic, an interesting perspective:

A Victimless Crime? 

The recording industry can stop blaming sagging sales and profits on online pirates: They’re cheapskates who probably wouldn’t have bought the albums they downloaded, according to an economic analysis of file-sharing and album sales. The study’s authors focused on the impact of Germany on downloads and sales in the fall of 2002: A sixth of all U.S. downloads are from German sharers, and during German school holidays—when kids are at home, online, and sharing their collections—the supply of pirated music available to U.S. listeners balloons, making downloading quicker and easier for Americans. But the authors found that albums that debuted in the U.S. when German kids were on holiday sold just as well as albums that debuted when German kids were in school. (They estimate the maximum number of album sales lost to piracy each week at no more than 368 copies.) Declining to endorse or condemn music pirates, the authors nevertheless point out that the net effect of piracy seems to be beneficial: The recording industry loses little or no money, and millions of American and German tightwads get their music for free. 

—“The Effect of File Sharing on Record Sales,” Felix Oberholzer-Gee and Koleman Strumpf, Journal of Political Economy (PDF)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From this month&#8217;s Atlantic, an interesting perspective:</p>
<p>A Victimless Crime? </p>
<p>The recording industry can stop blaming sagging sales and profits on online pirates: They’re cheapskates who probably wouldn’t have bought the albums they downloaded, according to an economic analysis of file-sharing and album sales. The study’s authors focused on the impact of Germany on downloads and sales in the fall of 2002: A sixth of all U.S. downloads are from German sharers, and during German school holidays—when kids are at home, online, and sharing their collections—the supply of pirated music available to U.S. listeners balloons, making downloading quicker and easier for Americans. But the authors found that albums that debuted in the U.S. when German kids were on holiday sold just as well as albums that debuted when German kids were in school. (They estimate the maximum number of album sales lost to piracy each week at no more than 368 copies.) Declining to endorse or condemn music pirates, the authors nevertheless point out that the net effect of piracy seems to be beneficial: The recording industry loses little or no money, and millions of American and German tightwads get their music for free. </p>
<p>—“The Effect of File Sharing on Record Sales,” Felix Oberholzer-Gee and Koleman Strumpf, Journal of Political Economy (PDF)</p>
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